PHOTOGRAPHY ENTHUSIASTS

[T42]

Hello Forum.

I am attaching two images made from my backyard the morning after a recent snow. We hardly ever see snow here in the southeastern US, so it's a big deal to us to get to see it at all. I invite your comments, and your thinking with respect to these two images compared to one another.

This shot was taken not long after sunrise.


This second shot was taken about 45 minutes after the first one.

[Adiseshanaik]

Mr.Henry, this was what I experienced during my last trekking. Excellent compo and lighting. Could the exposure be a little low? Feels like you will get more drama in the light if reduced by 1/3 stop during processing. Just my thought. TFS

[T42]

Mr.Henry, this was what I experienced during my last trekking. Excellent compo and lighting. Could the exposure be a little low? Feels like you will get more drama in the light if reduced by 1/3 stop during processing. Just my thought. TFS

Thank you, Adi !

I appreciate your insight and guidance far more than you know.

When I shot those, I overexposed by about a stop, compared to what the in-camera meter was advising. This was so that the snow would not tend towards middle gray. I was afraid to go much lighter for fear of blowing out the snow altogether. This was my "film-shooter-think" at work. Can you elaborate on "reduce the light by 1/3 stop in processing?" Please forgive my ignorance as I learn digital post processing from you and the other digital experts here.

Thanks again for looking, commenting, and helping me grow in this new area of photography (digital).

[Adiseshanaik]

When I shot those, I overexposed by about a stop, compared to what the in-camera meter was advising. This was so that the snow would not tend towards middle gray. I was afraid to go much lighter for fear of blowing out the snow altogether. This was my "film-shooter-think" at work. Can you elaborate on "reduce the light by 1/3 stop in processing?" Please forgive my ignorance as I learn digital post processing from you and the other digital experts here.

You cannot go wrong for exposure Mr.Henry, I too follow the same rule while shooting ice. What I am mentioning is that, for that a little blown area in the house part, it will be more clear if the exposure is adjusted while fine tuning the RAW (if you shot so) by 1/3.

[Subroto Sen]

Greetings Henry !
Both the pictures are well composed and well exposed shots but as suggested by Adi a 1/3 stop under will create dramatic light effect and the slightly blown out roof top in particular. I personally liked both these shots as it is but the warm morning slanting sunlight would be further accentuated if slightly under-exposed.
Shooting snow covered field is a dicey job and getting a clean white view of the snow poses some exposure problems.

TFS,

[T42]

Greetings Henry !
Both the pictures are well composed and well exposed shots but as suggested by Adi a 1/3 stop under will create dramatic light effect and the slightly blown out roof top in particular. I personally liked both these shots as it is but the warm morning slanting sunlight would be further accentuated if slightly under-exposed.
Shooting snow covered field is a dicey job and getting a clean white view of the snow poses some exposure problems.
TFS,

Hello Subroto!

Thanks for your comments and guidance. Each day I am thinking more that I am going to figure out this digital stuff yet. Just having fun here. I appreciate your part in helping me grow into the new technology.

[tom123]

nice henry sir....

bt at my monitor snow seems little yellow .... should i calibarate my monitor again or its 'ving some yellow tint ?

[T42]

nice henry sir.... bt at my monitor snow seems little yellow .... should i calibarate my monitor again or its 'ving some yellow tint ?

Greetings, Saikat.

I trust that you are recovered from your motorcycle accident by now, and that you are fully back to normal. Thanks for your reply and comments about the images above.

I cannot say about the yellow which you perceive in the images. I don't see the yellow cast at this monitor, but mine is not calibrated either. To my eye, the blues in the first shot are more pronounced, and especially so in the shadows. The second shot is less blue, but the whites in it seem about right to my eye on the monitor here. It would be of interest to learn how it looks to others on the Forum.

Just Googling about, I found this article about monitor calibration:

http://www.drycreekphoto.com/Learn/moni ... ration.htm

and this chart:

http://www.drycreekphoto.com/images/Cha ... C-sRGB.jpg

Just looking at the chart with my monitor here, the bottom two rows "seem to me" to be believable. I see the bottom row as white to black in even steps. The next row up I see believable representations of Blue, Green, Red, Yellow, Magenta, Cyan. The two rows above those I simply don't don't know how to relate to anything I know of as a standard yet. I worked with RGB in TV, and with MCY in color printing, so I have a good idea of what those should look like.

Perhaps the experts here can speak to the subject of monitor calibration and enlighten us.

Happy day.

[himadrimondal]

Seeing snow anywhere is a wonderful site. You are so lucky to have it in your backyard.
The exposure applied on the field seems perfect though as Adisesha had mentioned,
some parts of the photograph like the sky, the roof and trees selectively can be altered in PP. Post processing seems
to be a never ending process and generally takes around ten times the time one spends shooting the photograph.

Coming back to the first photograph, I find it loosing balance as the tree ends on the top and from where the blue sky starts. Seems like an abrupt ending.
Wish there were some clouds to counter the elements in the foreground or cropped to half its current size.
In that respect, the second photograph fairs better composition wise.

[tom123]

yes henry sir... I recovered and back to my works....

well, i know the blue on snow due to shadow and its prominent to me... but at both of the images i saw little yellow tone at snow part... even the blown out roof also indicate me yellow tone...

2nd pix showing me some more yellow... so I 'v a doubt on my monitor calibaration..

I did my monitor calibaration with Windows7 calibrator. I also cross checked my calibration with my installed GPU GTX9400 1gb driver. both r showing me black r complete black.

I also got few print out from labs yesterday and it 'v same color effects what I saw on my monitor...

Assuming all the digital problem togather I wold like to 'v a permission from u to post a snow pix what I shoot 2years ago and also shared at p2n.

well for further discussion and proving point please 'v a look at henry sirs post and my post and tell me what to do...

[T42]

Saikat,

You should do nothing. Your mountain and lake scenic composition is awesome in every respect. Thanks for sharing it. What a joy it must have been for you to be there, to see, to visualize, and to capture that image. I am quite happy just to see it through your capable eyes.

Hello Himadri.

Post processing seems to be a never ending process and generally takes around ten times the time one spends shooting the photograph.

It is/was that way in the wet darkroom too. The processes are at once so different, yet in many ways similar. I have spent an entire night getting a single print before. Some of the things that once took me many hours can now be done in seconds or minutes. And that's the stuff I need to learn now.

Coming back to the first photograph, I find it loosing balance as the tree ends on the top and from where the blue sky starts. Seems like an abrupt ending. ... Wish there were some clouds to counter the elements in the foreground or cropped to half its current size. ... In that respect, the second photograph fairs better composition wise.

Thanks a million for offering your evaluation of the compositional qualities of the images. I think I can see your points, and I really appreciate your candid input.

[SUMANTA]

I liked the first shot more than the 2n one.
I think the 2nd one could be better from a bit higher point of view to have the graphcal importance of the fence.

Wonderful colour and saturation and light.

Wake up early if it snows again.

[T42]

I liked the first shot more than the 2n one.
I think the 2nd one could be better from a bit higher point of view to have the graphical importance of the fence. ... Wonderful colour and saturation and light. ... Wake up early if it snows again.

Hello Sumanta.

Thank you for your assessment of the images above. You know how that my prejudices resonate with the way you see. Like you, I am also prejudiced towards the first shot. Maybe it's the more oblique light on the snow with the more pronounced modeling of it, or perhaps it's the less busy nature of that shot. In any case, snow in my backyard is a very rare happening, and I just wanted to share it with all you guys as I "saw" it on that special morning.

I trust that all is well with you, Jui, Miss Brishti, and all the family.

Happy day.